Wildling Pines Management

Well, I just think, you know, first and foremost, they're two separate issues. We can talk about Paris and we can talk about ETS, we can talk about wild and pines. Wilding pines are an environmental disaster. Um I met with a gentleman from South Marlborough who'd been working on this issue for 43 years. He first raised it with Rob Muldoon um back in the early 80s. Uh they are an environmental disaster. They, you know, threaten productive farmland with a sensitive water supplies, they're impact the biodiversity, got a massive risk of wildfires. There's more than two million hectares across the country affected by them, left untreated. They sort of expand about five percent a year, and that's about almost four billion dollars of economic threat over fifty years. So, you know, there's a real uh economic and environmental reasons for why we need to do something about that, and that's why we've increased funding two and a half times, and then working with in partnership with councils, farmers and owners, and uh to to work our way through that. Uh with respect to Paris, I mean, um, and what we're trying to do there. I mean, as I said to you before, um, you know, it's in our interest, our economic interest, our national interest, uh, to remain in Paris at this time. We compete with other countries that want to take us down. Large multinationals want, would love nothing if we came out of Paris to throw our products off shelf. That would just punish our farmers and make all Kiwis poorer. So, and we want agriculture increasing production uh um and our economy growing. So it's not um, you know, and it's not Paris ranking that hurt farmers, it was labor that hurt farmers and went to war with farmers back in the past. So from from a bit equally, we are working in our Paris you know commitments. We're committed to the net zero twenty fifty goals, which are the domestic goals that we've committed to. We're gonna give the 2030 a go, but um I've seen some reports I want to reassure everyone we're not sending billions of dollars on in jobs offshore like the last lot had proposed. That's just not going to happen. We're not gonna make New Zealanders poorer by taking money out of this country and sending it out to to someone um overseas for um something else. So we're not doing that stuff. So a different approach.