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First of all, AOC has not ruled out 2028. I think I do think Zoran Momdani's win was an absolute like earth earth shattering win yes he was running up against two deeply unpopular people but Cuomo wasn't even campaigning he thought it was going to be such a shoo-in for him to come back into the fold and be mayor of New York so Mamdani's win and the refusal to learn the open lessons around campaigning without throwing a single group under the bus he didn't throw immigrants under the bus hell he learned learn new languages you know he didn't throw gay people onto the bus trans people and none of that he worked he talked to trump voters he was bringing everyone on board and so that to me is a bright spot i think if aoc can tap into that um honestly i really don't counter out for a 2028 run um and it's just about getting through our massive wall of misogyny and bigotry and racism that we have in this country And that's real. The one thing I will say about Bernie is I also fault Bernie. This is if Bernie Sanders is not giving me an interview since I mean, I haven't asked, but like since 2018 is when I interviewed him, interviewed him in 2018 was all about health care, blah, but I've not had an interview with him since. And there's one question that's always been on my mind. And it's a question that even his advisors have come out afterwards and said, yep, this was a massive moment. In the second debate, I believe when it was just Bernie and Biden going head to head in 2020, Bernie was going in there and he had questions prepared for Biden on his record, on I think around like busing, being against busing, crime, you know, neoliberalism, you name it. Bernie has an edge on Biden. And he fucking folded like a chair, man. Bernie did not go hard on Biden in that debate. Why? Because they were both senators and they were colleagues for years and years and years. And he just didn't muster the ability to hammer him like he did Hillary Clinton, who, you know, I don't think it's a gender thing. I really do think it's the fact that Clinton had only been a senator for like a couple of terms or whatever it was. not a lot they weren't friendly Biden and Bernie were bosom buddies they were buds and so but he could have it would have been knockout it would have been KO pat like that would have been it If Bernie had gone as hard as he went on Biden in 2020 as he went on Hillary in 2016, bye, goodbye Biden. He would have never been president. That's my firm belief. And, of course, COVID and fucking Obama and all the other things that happened, but that was really pivotal.
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