A podcast episode debates the proposal to downgrade All Blacks travel class to cut costs, critiques the feasibility and fairness of such a measure, and examines broader immigration and brain drain trends in New Zealand with data limitations.
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Because the cost of international travel is now so expensive that it's costing uh moving our team in black around the planet is now costing teens, I should say, in black around the planet is costing nearly 87 million dollars a year and dropping them back a class on the plane will bring that cost back to 80 million dollars a year and nearly wipe out the seven million dollar loss that NZR just reported for the financial year, which is great maths. But the idea is ridiculous, isn't it? I mean, you can't ask a two-meter tall man like Fabian Holland to move down from business class, but even the shorter guys, you can't ask them to travel to South Africa in a few weeks, which is literally on the other side of the world, and as close to a full day's travel, even in the most direct route through Perth, and then ask them to get over their jet lag and start playing top-level rugby against the best team in the world and ask them to do all of that after they've been sitting up on a plane for the entire flight. Like that is impossible. And we sometimes disparage rugby for not being a real job when we say things like, oh, it's not that hard to throw a ball around a paddock, which may be true, but it's still a job, isn't it? When you're asking someone to fly that distance for their job for work, and not just once, but multiple times in a season, it should be in business class. Now, there is an argument about how many people go on these trips, and I'm happy to have a chat about that. There are apparently more than 40 players and nearly 30 staff going to South Africa in a few weeks' time, which seems excessive for a game that only requires 15 men to be on the field at any one time. And by the way, it's not just the all blacks who do this, who take these enormous squads around the world and put them in business class, it's also the black ferns in the Sevens teams. But on the idea of dropping these boys and girls down the class on the plane to bring them back down a peg and save some money. I suspect that there are people who will look at this and think this is a great idea, and that's the part that fascinates me. How many people out there will like the idea that our best rugby players are forced to sit further down the plane like the rest of us?
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