Chief Whip Accountability

Well, volcanic, especially as that party operates according to the supreme leader principle, because we haven't had many changes of leadership in the last 30 years. And when people have appeared to be at variance with the leader, they are dispatched. They say the Hanover's were like that. The Kings hated the Prince of Wales. But certainly Peters has never liked sort of the up-and-comers and whether that will extend to Jones, I don't know in the fullness of time. But I have to say that I was really pleased that both Luxon and Willis had a go at Peters because in my view, he is the enemy and people needed to be reminded that he did. put the Labour Party in government in 2017, and it was the Ardern-Peters administration that brought in the ban on oil and gas and their pull on the road to Damascus-type conversion to drill baby drill in this government doesn't sort of ring particularly sincerely with me because they never spoke out against some of these things. And there needs to be some accountability, in my opinion, for what they did nine years ago. He went into government with them out of sheer spite for individuals within the National Party and presumably because he got a few more baubles than he was expecting from the National Party. And so, you know, he, from a National Party point of view, he is a foe. And, you know, some of the things that he says I find quite extraordinary, like it's just that when he's criticizing the economic management, you forget. that he and his little buddies are sitting around the cabinet table in full coalition. So anyway, I mustn't be monomaniacal on the subject of New Zealand first, apart from one talking I'll be making in a couple of minutes. The point you're making is that we've reached that stage in the electoral cycle where the brothers and sisters in the coalition are not as sort of tight a trio as they were for the first period. None of it's surprising and all of it is something I would expect.