Ginny Andersen

And it's a shocker on every level. I hear you, I hear you, and I completely understand that you do feel sensitive on this one. This guy is a senior ranking police officer with deep connections into ethnic communities, and and you're representing a government who has a minister of nothing. Of the fact that you're from the senior police officer. And from you from ethnic communities who's not from those communities. So you have a senior ranking police officer who represents those communities that your government doesn't. So I can see why you're sensitive on this. It's completely understandable.

Well, I'd just like to say one thing, so I didn't get a chance to respond to what Mark said last year. Oh, go on. I'd just like to say that. It's just not true. That correct process wasn't followed with the case. He was not a candidate. Let me finish, please. Let me know because you make the commissioner say something doesn't mean it's true. It was not true. Oh, that's he was not, he was not a candidate at the time, and under public service guidelines has absolutely no requirement until he's made a candidate. He has followed the process completely. That's not true. And it's the fact that you are threatened by the city. You are not the arbiter.

Do you think it's a good call? Oh, I think it's a sensible call. Um, this is something that's actually um very common overseas. So in the UK is quite a common thing to pick up your medicine from an e-locker. And it's actually something that's been trial back in 2023. Um, but unfortunately, Met saves have had to, you know, shut it down. Um, not because patient was harmed, but more because the legislation actually doesn't allow us to do this at the moment. Yeah. Why not? Why does the l what's the problem with it? Yeah, it's um, you know, medicine's got to be kept in a certain way, and when you put it into an e-locker, it's usually outside of the speed street. Um, I think that's a technicality of it. Is it's sort of outside especially not supervised by a pharmacist. Um, and you know, if you think about it, the legislation was written like the medicine act was actually written in 1981. So that was when, you know, before we had internet technology and phones and things like that. So um, you know, things have come a long way, but the legislation unfortunately hasn't kept up.

Yeah, I think I think you know, farmsey's always been a target for thief anyway. So um, so yeah, that's that could yeah, that's always gonna be a risk. So, for example, control draw will probably not be a part of this um this offer. So um, but you know, when you think about it, this type of system is probably more secure than what we are already doing. At the moment, farmers can post a medicine, they put it in a career bag, and those things go missing as well. So, um, yeah, so this in this and in a way it's probably more secure. It's on your premises, it's in the lock cupboard, you know, you get success to your phone with a QR code pin number. So, yeah, so in some ways, if you look at it differently, it it's probably more secure than what we actually doing right now.

They went to the Merritt and Suites at Bath Scott. Anyone who's flown in and out of Sydney would know that hotel's very close to the airport. And they had Domino's pizza delivery, and then they were whisked out of the underground car park sometime later and have headed off into Western Sydney somewhere. A lot of Australians pretty upset and angry about the fact that these women and children, both in Sydney and in Melbourne, uh were allowed to leave by side entrances. They took them away, so they weren't confronted by the media. Maybe that's a precaution by federal police, but I do compare it with what they did to Ben Robert Smith when they dragged him off a plane and marched him across the tarmac, which has uh focused a lot of people's attention. There were riot squad cars at Sydney Airport. No one wonders what they thought was actually going to happen. As I said, there was a violent scuffle in Melbourne when Rossi Emile left the airport through a back door, one of her handlers, and I point out that there were four men standing outside the arrival door at Melbourne Airport dressed in hoodies and masks, all in black.

Well, that's just to uh to redo it. I mean, that's not the cost of welfare in the country. Uh the Minister Rishworth will stand up at the press club today. Now, when I see the words, and I don't know what you think, Mike. When I see the words Labour government and welfare changes, that doesn't mean it's gonna get harder to get the goal. I always believe it's going to get easier, and when you start to dig down into the detail, that's exactly what's going to happen. This all comes by the way, where ex-Tresurer Joe Hockey yesterday warned Australia is headed to an unemployment level around 15%. Now I think that's an exaggeration, but it's certainly going up. Uh two billion a year we spend on unemployment benefits.

I don't think we've kind of uh taken it to the highest level of the Labour Party. You know, of course we'd rather be talking about three-free visits to the GP uh or the state of education system and the forms now. But look, we though candidates responding to a light heart question as part of a QA session, and and that's just about as exciting as it gets.

Well they're receiving a thousand dollars. I I think that's a fair thing to say, like whether or not that the perception from people who have to choose between paying for petrol food, having thirty dollars cut a week from the accommodation, or the person doing that gets a thousand. That's hard for Kiwis to stomach that it's a big difference. Well, what's your answer then?

Probably not T V and Z unless they own property. So in my time working as a negotiator for the Office of Treaty Settlements, one of the abilities of that EWE can do is I think it's pretty sure it's section 27, that you can place a covenant over a state-owned asset. And so that's unable to be sold uh or anything, you know, transferred uh until you're engaged with that EWE, and that would prevent. And so I think you need some treasury advice on first of all, do they have a covenant on it uh or not? And also what happens if you lift that or go around that. So in order to not make decisions that further expose our country to risk, we want to be able to do all of that homework to make sure it's complacent.

Uh I can't say that I'm not the energy spokesperson, but I know they're working on all those areas now. And once we need the books and we've done the analysis, we will have the ability to make policies. But I've got one more point. I would like one more point on um on the public servants. It's important. I'd like to mark those shout-outs. I'd like one shout out, I never do them. I would like to do a shout out to Darrell from High Five maintenance in Newlands. High optimum. High five maintenance. They do all your handy helping out work, lawns, you name it, for your house up, rental properties. Uh he is 60. He has uh his weekly petrol bill went from I think monthly petrol bill went from 700 to 1400, and he's had to let a couple of his guys go because of that. But what's made it worse is because of the job cuts in Wellington, uh, people were getting their lawns cut maybe once a week. They've changed that to once a month or not at all. Uh and they're delaying maintenance on their house because they can't afford it because someone's lost their job. And he's a great example of when there are job cuts, uh, whether they're the public service or wider ones, they impact the local economy, and we have felt that to the bone in Willington.

Probably not T V and Z unless they own property. So in my time working as a negotiator for the Office of Treaty Settlements, one of the abilities of that EWE can do is I think it's pretty sure it's section 27 that you can place a covenant over a state-owned asset. And so that's unable to be sold uh or anything, you know, transferred uh until you're engaged with that EWE, and that would prevent. So I think you need some treasury advice on first of all, does it have a covenant on it uh or not? And also what happens if you lift that or go around that. So in order to not make decisions that further expose our country to risk, we want to be able to do all of that homework to make sure it's in place.

I can't say that. I'm not the energy spokesperson, but I know they're working on all those areas now. And once we get the books and we've done the analysis, we will have the ability to make policies. But I've got one more point. I would like one more point on um on the public servants. It's important. I'd like to mark these shout outs. I'd like one shout out. I never do them. I would like to do a shout-out to Garrill from High Five maintenance in Newlands. High five high five maintenance. They do all your handy helping out work, lawns, you name it. Uh he is 60. He has uh his weekly petrol bill went from I think monthly petrol bill went from 700 to 1400, and he had to let a couple of his guys go because of that. But what's made it worse is because of the job cuts in Wellington, uh, people were getting their lawns cut maybe once a week. They've changed that to once a month or not at all. Uh, and they're delaying maintenance on their house because they can't afford it because someone's lost their job. And he's a great example of when there are job cuts, uh, whether they're the public service or wider ones, they impact the local economy, and we have felt that to the bone in Wellington.